Binks Sames Mach 2 SL

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:35 pm
I'm looking for advice ,thoughts on this paint gun. Seemingly missing the tip assembly, it could be $40 wasted or well spent?
As well, recommendations for a replacement tip size to compliment usage if it holds some value for automotive spray paint applications?
Any thought or feed back would be appreciated. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:49 pm
That's a Pressure pot gun, The Info doesn't say what Fluid Tip it has and then you say it doesn't have a fluid tip.

I would stay away from it.

If you already own it well you already know you need a fluid tip and some seals of and a Pressure cup or pot and Hose for it.

Personally I have wanted one for whole car sprays but at same time I have found what I have works good enough.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:43 pm
Doright wrote:That's a Pressure pot gun, The Info doesn't say what Fluid Tip it has and then you say it doesn't have a fluid tip.

I would stay away from it.

If you already own it well you already know you need a fluid tip and some seals of and a Pressure cup or pot and Hose for it.

Personally I have wanted one for whole car sprays but at same time I have found what I have works good enough.


Thanks for the reply Doright. No, it doesn't have a fluid tip. And while I guess I own it in the sense I gave buddy $40 for it, he was selling off all the crap his renter gave him to make rent. I could go back to him with it, but it doesn't sounds like a total waste of money?
I do have a pressure cup from another gun, plus I thought Bink's is a popular name and I beat him down from the $80 he was asking hinging on as I told him, I really didn't need it, wasn't sure what a "fluid Tip" was worth to buy or if it was even still available? Not to mention what I had for cash.
I'm the guy who works on his cars so I must really need this stuff?
I'll start making calls to see what the market holds for parts and how much. Thanks again.



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:33 am
Binks is a Good name Im sure the gun will work fine, as long as You get the right Fluid tip for it. You may want to check into if the Needles and Fluid tips are a matched set? like Other Hi dollar gun's.
I have no idea If the Needle sizes very with different size Fluid tips? but some Hi dollar guns do.

There are other guys here who Know a lot more than I do about Binks guns.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:00 am
Doright wrote:Binks is a Good name Im sure the gun will work fine, as long as You get the right Fluid tip for it. You may want to check into if the Needles and Fluid tips are a matched set? like Other Hi dollar gun's.
I have no idea If the Needle sizes very with different size Fluid tips? but some Hi dollar guns do.

There are other guys here who Know a lot more than I do about Binks guns.


I've made the call Saturday to get the ball rolling with a follow up Monday and I'm waiting to hear further on availability. I was a bit shocked to hear the price was a $100+ for a fluid tip assembly? As this unfolds I'll post results to the progress made.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:29 pm
Turns out this gun, as I've since learned, it part of a high pressure system requiring a pump and such things I know little about or have no interest in involving myself with. As such, I'll try selling it off locally, or possible eBay? While I could get a fluid nozzel assembly, I'm told it won't work, or work well with air line pressure, and the cost of a fluid tip assemble at just over $100 doesn't seem worth me dropping a dime further on it. Live and learn. :flatten:



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:29 pm
If you don't mind a suggestion and a couple of questions ???

How much air compressor do you have? what is its CFM Rating?
HP ratings are of little use unless its a Good brand name Motor such as Baldor or Westing house. Tank size helps 60 gal min Bigger is always better with the whole air compressor thing. A Good Air compressor is a Must have deal when Painting. :allgood:

After that you need a Good Water trap and filter, and Silica Media drier helps too.

Projectponey has a Devilbiss Plus gun for sale they are good guns I use one myself.
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If you were to get it or another one all you need is a 1.8 and a 1.4 Fluid tips and some new seals for it all readily available from Devilbiss. Think I paid 15 each maybe 20 each for extra fluid tips and Seals were cheap.

You don't need multiple Guns to paint cars either, Just learn how to clean the gun properly between different Paints.
The 670 Plus gun can and will lay Clear like Glass It will also lay down Base coats very well solids or Metallic's.
There are many better guns out there but for the Money its not a bad deal.
I would upgrade to a Better gun But for all the spraying I do these days why would I ?
The ones I have spray good.
If you do get one make sure you get plenty of Fluid needle Seals for it, That's the Devillbiss week point they like to leak right there at the Needle packing.
I make my own out of a roll of Teflon Tape but the pre made ones are easier to use. The rest of the seals last a good while through many tear downs and cleanings.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:19 am
Dennis, thank you. I'm playing catch up on things and will have to play catch up in the conversation at length another time. It wasn't the money that stopped me it was finding a Fluid tip and assemble. I'm not finding the parts to be available, as new as it looks, it's a 20 year old gun.
I didn't want to pay for should fit, might work. I can make my own sketchy.
Looking over the parts break down and what buddy showed and explained to me, It may never spray a clear on a panel, but it could to be a fancy sprayer for my garden hose? Depends on my efforts I guess. $40 bucks...If didn't buy a gun and bought two extra large pizzas. Money's spent. As it is, I still have the gun. Still friends with the neighbor. I'll tell you know though, I could use more air. Never enough of that.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:26 pm
Doright wrote:If you don't mind a suggestion and a couple of questions ???
-Not at all. But be forewarned I'm not known for always heeding good advice. Lol. Sometimes I think I go so far as to argue against it? And sometimes I just have to learn the hard way what a mistake it was not following it? But I do listen, and don't mind answering questions.[/color]

How much air compressor do you have? what is its CFM Rating?
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- In my world, Impact wrenches, air drill, die grinders, disc sander, blasting cabinet, body and paint. On my second compressor upgrade, I'll probably bite the bullet one more time. As far as CFM, I think the previous posts picture showed 15CFM, but I don't think so. I can blast steady at 80 psi, it will not skip a beat with impacts and air drills, or the disc sander, but it won't support an orbital or air board for long or much.

HP ratings are of little use unless its a Good brand name Motor such as Baldor or Westing house. Tank size helps 60 gal min Bigger is always better with the whole air compressor thing. A Good Air compressor is a Must have deal when Painting. :allgood:
- I hear you, just barely over the noise lol? Being a one man show I'll usually wear muffs and go Tommy. I do try to keep the use of air tools to a minimum for the neighborly concerns it presents. One that didn't constantly kick on would be a bonus when working.

After that you need a Good Water trap and filter, and Silica Media drier helps too.
- While I do have a water trap in line from my a 20' of copper as a chilling panel, when I find myself jumping into quality painting, I'll heed that advice and step it up a notch.

Projectponey has a Devilbiss Plus gun for sale they are good guns I use one myself.
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-Don't hate me for posting this, but this little replica gun is my precious.
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I have a full sizer as well, but it hasn't been used in a while. That and a few other deals found out there.


If you were to get it or another one all you need is a 1.8 and a 1.4 Fluid tips and some new seals for it all readily available from Devilbiss. Think I paid 15 each maybe 20 each for extra fluid tips and Seals were cheap.

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-If you said to a guy, here's a metal box full of wires and controls, switches and dials, wires and doodads on a board , and here's a paint gun. I'm sorry but I have a hard time spending that big dollar. But I get it. I didn't even know Porter Cable made a spray gun? Truth be told, I don't need perfection perfect, I just like colors.

You don't need multiple Guns to paint cars either, Just learn how to clean the gun properly between different Paints.
The 670 Plus gun can and will lay Clear like Glass It will also lay down Base coats very well solids or Metallic's.
There are many better guns out there but for the Money its not a bad deal.
I would upgrade to a Better gun But for all the spraying I do these days why would I ?
The ones I have spray good.
-You know, I counted and discovered I had 4 GMAW machines? Four! I do follow along in your thinking. My garage is so crowded it was easier to plant a mig here and there not that I needed more then the original I bought ages ago. Money can buy a lot but it can't buy you love.
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-Paper...it buys lots of paper, lol. $5.00 a stack at a garage sale this fall.


If you do get one make sure you get plenty of Fluid needle Seals for it, That's the Devillbiss week point they like to leak right there at the Needle packing.
I make my own out of a roll of Teflon Tape but the pre made ones are easier to use. The rest of the seals last a good while through many tear downs and cleanings.
- That's a solid bit of advice I'll adhere to. I'll check out the recommendation for the gun upgrade you suggested, as well consumable parts for spares. Got back from looking at a shop space for lease. I'm thinking for what It could cost me, I could be saving going hard for a year some place other then here at home? Comes with a booth but no compressor? I mentioned a third compressor purchase? We'll see?
Thanks again for the reply and support. :goodjob:



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:17 pm
Was shopping on eBay and found this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BINKS-Mach-2-S ... :rk:3:pf:0

“Missing the nozzle cone.”

Lol. Misery loves company! :rotfl:

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