Where would you cut this quarter panel?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:54 pm
Hi all, I am working on a 2017 honda civic that I bought as a project and I am down to my last item to tackle....the rear quarter. As you can see a mailbox did a wonderful job of tearing it up! From what I see there is little to no damage the the inner wheelhouse, but obviously I wont know everything until this quarter comes off. So my question is, where would all of you pro's cut the top section off at? If there was actually a window in that wing piece it would be a no brainer (i think), but with it being solid (boded/spot welded) on this model, I am unsure of trying a butt weld that long.....Suggestions please!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:51 am
why not just above the damage, but below that triangle-shaped inset area? It'll be a long seam but not too bad if you take your time when welding.



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:09 pm
how high will the new quarter come up to? or are you getting a used quarter.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:33 pm
I would replace the whole thing along all original welds rather than trying to splice it in.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:15 pm
Just throwing this out there,I would suggest going to your local dealer for suggested Honda reccomendations for doing a quarter panel replacement. Those panels are ultra high strength steel and the joints need to be silicone bronze welded along with certain sectioning areas. Fixing theses new cars is a little different today than what we used to do back in the day.



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:42 pm
^^^interesting, I wonder how they do the silicone bronze weld. the reason I ask is my boy was telling my a wile back that they got a new welding machine that does everything, and one of them I thought he said was it would bronze weld.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:43 pm
Yes sir badsixx you are correct,your boys shop probably has the prospot welder. The pro spot has 3 torches that you can set up for aluminum,silicone bronze, steel. There are many out there from many different manufacturers.you really need to know what your doing with new vehicles for a safe repair.



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:37 pm
thanks, i'm going up to visit him soon i'll have to go check it out. I always like going to his shop and looking at all the latest tools he has.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:46 pm
Silicon Bronze is a colder weld process with a bead Tinsel strength close to regular steel, I have had difficulty finding Spools of it for a Mig. My Local Welding Jobber aint the best.

It is very easy to use with Gas or Tig weld process and welding Sticks of it are easy to find n welding store.

Be aware the Factory in some repairs is requiring a Silicone Bead in one location and a Steel Bead right next to it in another location, This is the reason for the new machines with three weld guns and Three spools of material. Its easier To have an all in one machine rather than two or Switching out spools continuously. And theirs the contamination issues of the liner to contend with as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:53 am
Ron Covell had a very good article about using silicon bronze instead of using regular filler wire, silicon bronze is considered brazing.......also it is NOT recommended that you do a butt-weld with silicon bronze
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