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I just got a quote to repaint my old Camaro, they said to set the gaps and respray it 12500.

Now I am not a great painter, but I have resprayed a few cars over the years (I’m 50), I also have a small paint booth in my work shop for painting guitars which I do weekly, 9ft by 9ft.

My car is not a show car, it’s been sandblasted back to bare metal and epoxy primed by the blasting company, I have cut and replaced many panels, taken care of all the rust work, I have even had the whole cowl section rebuilt with new panels from a repair shop, but they said if the window doesn’t fit come back and see the,, that really inspires me, but no bog work done to the car.

So my question.

What I want to do.

I want to paint the inside of the panels, example the door jambs, boot jambs, firewall, innerguards, windscreen recesses and the inside of the doors, can I scuff the epoxy primer and colour coat it, or should I scuff the epoxy primer, prime and then colour coat (in 2k of course)

My goal, is to have the whole car assembled, windscreens in, doors on fenders on and so forth, with the insides and jambs all painted then I can mask / bog and paint the whole outside.

It has had so much rust work done, I reall would hate to paint and assemble only to find the front and rear windows don’t fit properly etc

Any help would be appreciated

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:53 am
Yes you can scuff Epoxy and spray color for interior stuff and Jambs.
You can also Scuff it and spray Primer coat.
Some epoxy's can be re-coated with itself at any time as well.

After what was said I would test fit Glass First! before proceeding with anything else.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:40 pm
:goodpost: yep make sure the glass is going to fit before moving on
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Yes, I need brand new windscreen for test fitting, so I’m thinking paint the windscreen recess front and rear and get a professional in to supply and fit new glass before proceeding any further, if they don’t fit it could be a world of hurt for me

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:32 pm
let us know how things go
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:52 am
I would leave the glass out. Certainly do a test fit first but painting without the glass (front and rear at least) will mean that you can wrap the paint down under where the edge of the seal will be later. This will give you a better quality job in terms of both not having an edge that could lift later and, of course, visually.

The alternative is the special 3M masking tape that goes under the rubber seal and lifts it up out of the way but it is hellishly expensive and unbelievably time consuming. Edges to door, bonnet and boot jambs will be fine if just backmasked but I find that fly masking gives a better, softer edge than even the sticky rod type masking.

I prefer to paint with doors on, so just as you plan, because there is less chance of variation in colour or finish. I do bonnet, bootlid and guards separately and just have to pay attention to achieving the same finish.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:09 pm
if my memory is correct, and at my age not so often. the glass on that car should be glued in with usually butyl tape or liquid butyl. what I have done is to shoot the widow area with a good couple coats of epoxy then install the glass. after that do your color and clear then install the reveal molding if any. speaking of reveal molding you should check to make sure it fits also, and I believe they used spot welded pegs to retain the molding. make sure they are there if needed they should be fitted before the glass is installed. something to watch is getting any thinner reducer or wipe down material on the edge of the glass. I have seen it start to delaminate from this.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:05 pm
Jay,

Your memory serves you well, yes they have the trim rivets around the window sill, still trying to acquire some as a few are missing, hey don’t sell them here in Australia, I have a stud welder I can use for the job, but still trying to get hold of them first.

Yes they use a butyl rubber to hold the windows in place

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:28 pm
most any body shop that's been around a few years should have some. they also made some screw in ones, I've never used them but have seen them on cars I've worked on and they seemed to work.
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