.? Possible to blend 2k clear coats wihtout witness lines

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As per title, when clear coating a panel and i find some areas of the clear poorly applied (yes me), is there a trick to smoothing and clear coating just that area without witness marks of the blend area in the buffing rather than clear coating the whole panel again.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:43 am
If the clear is fairly fresh then you can just recoat the problem area and melt in the edges using a blending thinner. Getting it just right so that there are no obvious lines after buffing can be a bit tricky - it's an experience thing, knowing just how much blending thinner to use and then not over buffing the join.
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What is blending thinner, thats got me interested now, I am aware of retarder for lacquers but not 2k stuff.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:52 am
It's a special thinner that melts fresh clear into existing clear. Applied with a fine mist coat over the join it bonds the two layers together.
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Thanks, will contact paint shop tomoz, what sort of drying window do you think it would work with, one day, one week, one month, one year etc

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[quote="NFT5"]If the clear is fairly fresh then you can just recoat the problem area and melt in the edges using a blending thinner. Getting it just right so that there are no obvious lines after buffing can be a bit tricky - it's an experience thing, knowing just how much blending thinner to use and then not over buffing the join.[/quote

:goodpost: this procedure might be a little more than you want, but I've used a mid coat adhesion promotor DuPont's 222 several times it works good with blends in clear. I will usually use 3 guns, 1 to apply the midcoat and base then one to shoot the clear and a detail gun for the blender. as Chris said it an experience thing. in all truth about it I would just sand it smooth and recoat with clear, but then how are you going to get that experience.
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simso wrote:Thanks, will contact paint shop tomoz, what sort of drying window do you think it would work with, one day, one week, one month, one year etc

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The blending thinner goes on immediately after the clear and you only use a tiny amount - just a fine mist over the joint itself. The one I use is Axalta AK350 and 5 litres lasts about 5 years. It slows the flash off in the initial stages by a little bit, but then drying times are much the same as for the clear you've used.

AK350 can also be used with 2K and even acrylic.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:04 am
When I blend clear I use magnets taped to paper to offset it off the surface.
I spray my clear up to the edge at a slight angle so some goes just under the
edge, then I slide the paper away a little before the next coat.
Last coat I slide it a little more and spray a little blender or
reducer on the edge to lay it down.
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NFT5 wrote:The blending thinner goes on immediately after the clear and you only use a tiny amount - just a fine mist over the joint itself. The one I use is Axalta AK350 and 5 litres lasts about 5 years. It slows the flash off in the initial stages by a little bit, but then drying times are much the same as for the clear you've used.
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Picked up some blending thinner, I also asked them how to use it, he mentioned you can spray the area with the thinners before hand or after or mix in with the paint

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JCCLARK wrote:When I blend clear I use magnets taped to paper to offset it off the surface.
I spray my clear up to the edge at a slight angle so some goes just under the
edge, then I slide the paper away a little before the next coat.
Last coat I slide it a little more and spray a little blender or
reducer on the edge to lay it down


Interesting way of doing it, i was taught soft edges by rolling the tape up for blending out, just this time around i want to melt new to old

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