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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:46 am
So you are planning to just sand the original paint and then spray your SS correct?
If so what condition is your original paint in? Is the clear faded or peeling?
Are you planning to sand down to the primer or just scuff up the surface for a repaint?
Will you be applying a sealer?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:39 pm
NightTrain wrote:Back in the "old days", 320 grit was the standard for final sanding for
acrylic enamel. For today's formulations, I too would go with 600 grit
just to be on the safe side. Especially with black. Definitely use a
hardener with the acrylic enamel, for higher gloss, better durability,
and a shorter recoat window in case repairs are needed.

I'm curious as to why you chose A/E instead of urethane single stage?
Nothing wrong with it, it's just an older technology than the newer
urethanes. Sometimes 50's and 60's cars look better with the same era
A/Es on them...

:goodpost: your right i remember the old Centari A/E specified 320
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:13 am
My paint system is Centari and I love the concept of common tinters with just a binder change to make different paints, including the L400 acrylic enamel which I use regularly.

The idea of 320 grit as a base finish for AE went out with panel beaters who would only file finish. Might have been straight, but who wants 40 grit grooves in their bonnet?

These days the correct preparation is P500 dry on a DA or P800-P1000 wet. Best results will be on a 1K primer where the topcoat will actually melt in to the primer. I sand P180-P240 dry before the primer, especially over a hard, cured substrate.

For 380S (the best 1K clear in the world) correct preparation for a fully cured substrate is P1200. Obviously solids only, metallics/pearls should be WOW, not sanded.

Hardening AE is optional, but 5% Acrylic Urethane hardener will work well.

L400 acrylic enamel can be applied absolutely dead flat, so no peel or urethane wave. In my opinion gloss levels, after wet sanding and buffing, can surpass those on urethane paints. If the substrate is acrylic then you will never get clearcoat or topcoat delamination although, like all acrylics, after many years in the sun, the paint will dry and start to crack. Long after a urethane has delaminated though.

Using the best quality, slow thinner, is essential. I only use PPG Dulon AAA with acrylic topcoats.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:18 pm
'68 Coronet R/T wrote:So you are planning to just sand the original paint and then spray your SS correct?
If so what condition is your original paint in? Is the clear faded or peeling?
Are you planning to sand down to the primer or just scuff up the surface for a repaint?
Will you be applying a sealer?


The paint is in not so good condition. Clear coat is peeling. Planning to scuff up for a repaint. No sealer. Just AE with hardener. Thanks!



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:08 pm
Ok so I’m going with 320 and the 600 grit. Once I’m ready to shoot the paint, how many coats and how much time in between coats should I go with?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:29 pm
cruisinusa wrote:The paint is in not so good condition. Clear coat is peeling. Planning to scuff up for a repaint. No sealer. Just AE with hardener. Thanks!


This won't work. All the old clear must be completely removed or you will get an uneven finish and likely reactions around edges. Apart from that, the old paint is unsound as a base.

Remove the old paint, then prime/seal before application of the new paint.
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