Evercoat short strand fiberglass filler Mixing ?

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:28 pm
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I am using Evercoats short strand Fiberglass filler.
Instructions say 2% activator by weight should have 5-6 min working time.
I am using a Good gram scale to weigh out filler doing quick check of weight and coming up with activator weight mixing per instructions they say 5-6 min work time but I am not getting even 3 min to work with it on the panel before it kicks.
I have cut the activator by a gram or so and even added up to 50 grams more of actual filler to try to slow it down a bit but no joy.

Temps are warm mid 80s lower 90s but not overly hot YET and I am in my shop with the Swamp cooler going full blast so its a lot cooler in my shop than out doors.

Is it possible the higher humidity in my shop is playing a role?

Would reduceing activator down to 1% -1.5% Help? or would I have a bad batch on car? do not want adhesion issues or a mess to clean up.
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:56 pm
That stuff does not like HEAT. I think it kicks too fast even in just the mid to high 70's. Just an opinion but if the stuff is kicking all the way through (saw open a test blob) you are okay. I mean honestly, almost all of these fillers would eventually kick even without hardener if left in a hot room for a few days.... ask me how I know....
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:57 pm
I sent a question to Evercoats Tech line email will see what they say.
Probably be waiting a few days for a response from Evercoat.

I can tell you what its total BS I am wasting more than I am getting on the panel.
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 2:05 pm
Humidity does accelerate it.
Just like it does with clear coats.
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 2:36 pm
I ended up switching to USC's stuff years ago. Stuff is still quick but slower than Evercoat. When I really need some time I go to epoxy resin and cut up my own strands for it. Pro Marine has good pricing on 521 Epoxy with dispenser pumps included. This is it.... https://promarinesupplies.com/products/ ... xy-resin-1 Comes in slow and fast hardeners as well as quart and gallon kits.
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 7:20 pm
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How thick is that stuff? is it thick enough to used as a Filler? or is it a thick runny resin ?
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 8:25 pm
I don't know if you are already doing it or not, but I learned the hard way to spread the filler out thin on my mixing board after it is thoroughly mixed.

That helped me quite a bit.
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 10:34 pm
Dennis,
We always combine it with strands, ceramic micro-balloons, or a collodial silica filler for thickening and extra strength. Without a filler I would say it is kind of like a honey consistency. We almost never use it without some type of filler. With any of those listed above you can make it into a very thick paste.
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 11:52 pm
OldFatBald wrote:I don't know if you are already doing it or not, but I learned the hard way to spread the filler out thin on my mixing board after it is thoroughly mixed.

That helped me quite a bit.


:goodpost: Good point here, that lump of filler on your board builds heat fast causing the chain reaction to happen to quick. i can't see a humidity problem in your location you should be here.
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:53 pm
I will try spreading it out thin on Board, I kinda just notice this with my last application a few min ago kinda thought it was strange once spread thin it wasn't kicking on the car or the board as fast just now, also started mixing smaller Batches 100-150 grams at a time.
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