Prepping Vinyl interior pieces??

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:14 pm
I am going to paint these interior pieces (not the carpet) with some BC/CC as I am installing new carpet.

This is to hold me over until I get some more leather delivered.

It is old old vinyl. I am going to clean the heck out of it.

* Should I use some HOK AP01 (adhesion promotor) or a light coat of thinned epoxy first?

This car is far from a daily driver and only comes out when the sun is shining, it’s not too hot not too cold type of day.

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 11:03 pm
I have restored a lot of old vinyl and have always felt that the thinner you can keep the "prep. work" the better. I always use adhesion promoter. I have seen epoxy "crack up" on old vinyl, never had that happen with the adhesion promoter.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 11:50 am
Thank you sir!

I will go with the AP and no primer.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 12:11 pm
When I did this years ago I used actual Vinyl dye Paints from PPG, They had special cleaners and such for doing it always came out great.

I personally would not use regular automotive type paints on it myself, Even though we use them on plastic bumpers and other pieces.
I just feel that the Interior pieces are better treated with actual products designed for them real Vinyl dyes and Plastic pieces are better left to specialty products in my opinion.

I was repainting actual Vinyl seats covers with their stuff and it worked fantastic wouldn't rub off crack or peal and was hard to scratch and had UV protection in it.

So many plastics use wax for the mold release it can cause a real nightmare.

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 5:07 pm
Doright wrote:When I did this years ago I used actual Vinyl dye Paints from PPG, They had special cleaners and such for doing it always came out great.

I personally would not use regular automotive type paints on it myself, Even though we use them on plastic bumpers and other pieces.
I just feel that the Interior pieces are better treated with actual products designed for them real Vinyl dyes and Plastic pieces are better left to specialty products in my opinion.

I was repainting actual Vinyl seats covers with their stuff and it worked fantastic wouldn't rub off crack or peal and was hard to scratch and had UV protection in it.

So many plastics use wax for the mold release it can cause a real nightmare.

https://us.ppgrefinish.com/PPG-Refinish ... No-Problem



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 10:26 pm
This is what I have used for the last 30 years or so.... https://www.mohawk-finishing.com/produc ... -promoter/
SEM also makes an aerosol Vinyl Prep. that reads about the same as that one.....
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2022 2:23 am
Doright wrote:I just feel that the Interior pieces are better treated with actual products designed for them real Vinyl dyes and Plastic pieces are better left to specialty products in my opinion.


Agree.

Axalta have plastic/vinyl binders (flat and semi-gloss) in the Cromax range. I've used it often and it works a treat.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2022 10:21 pm
Well, those weren't the answers that I wanted to hear!!

I guess on Tuesday I will call around and see if one of the jobbers carry those lines. Our one jobber in town turned into an @$$ wipe a couple of years ago, so I need to go a town or two over.

I could not find a stock SEMs color that was close to what I need.

* Can a jobber match a vinyl dye color like they do with paints?
* Do I just ask for PPG vinyl dye?


I'm trying to match the darker brown that I used on my lower dash pieces.

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2022 1:12 am
With the Axalta system you can colour match to almost anything by eye or you can use the formulae in the system for L400 Acrylic.

It's not a dye, rather a paint that is coloured with tinters, just like any other. The binder is specific to vinyls and plastics.

For this overhead console in my car I just matched by eye. It's actually a much better match than it appears in the photo where the light plays tricks on the colour.

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